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bettyrubble/d-a obviously, you're a bit behind. This has already been brought out. So what do you want....brownie points or perhaps you should read up on GR history....?


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This has already been reported and is being dealt with....ignore it!


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exposing corruption
The private groups Mas and pretty people and peace of cake all hve pretty much the same members. they think that they run gr and have the right to defame, judge and even warn new members about other existing members being phoney, meaning having multiple aka's. Meanwhile thepiggs( amember of all 3 groups listed above) has 4 alters(misslily, fire_topaz. mimi_bobeck and one more) and runs around the site trying to befriend people who the groups don't trust.

They also break into private groups where they are not members and read all the posts to find out what is going on.

i broke into their groups and am just reprinting their dialogues so that people know that they are saying and doing harmful things.

here are more thread #s: 4227, 4241, 4248, 4266, 4269

, 4273, 4306 and there are many more. Don't be surprised if you find your name being tossed around by these witches!


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This is what I got from betty rubble...now do you see why I am so upset??????


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Don't bother looking at the threads. That was then, and we can supply a million other threads from 'Way Back Then' that no longer make a hills' beans worth of difference. Further more, we won't be quite so predjudice in what we chose for you to see....

GG, maybe you should consider the source of them first?? This BettyRubble is no longer a member. Gee, I wonder why???

Yes, a lot of us have been fooled, upset, and HAVE ALLOWED OURSELVES to be victims of problems on this site. Yes, one of these problems has not been 'figured out' as of yet, and that problem is still participating in cognito in some of the groups -- private, and public.....

BUT!!!! You were warned by some very good people as to becoming too friendly with these trolls. So, the trolls have changed their costumes. Big deal! They will again and again and again......as long as they can get people like you to do their dirty work for them -- which, according to a lot of PM's that were sent by you to the exact same people who tried to help you & give you a heads-up -- they will continue to exisit, fester, AND do so quite eloquently.

Funny how BettyRubble has been removed from the site. Ditto with many others.

Please consider the source before you attack the next time.


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Kukla-

You certainly are a troublemaker, aren't you? This thread is 3 days old. Yet you must persist in bringing it to the forefront again.

In my experience-

Most ( not all) people will act, in the present and in the future, pretty much the same way they have in the past. You prove that with your antagonistic post.

History has a tendency to repeat itself.


" Further more, we won't be quite so predjudice in what we chose for you to see...."

What on earth does THAT mean? And who is WE? That's a very curious statement. Who are you speaking for? Some "secret organization" that controls what all the people on Group Recipes are permitted to see! That's sounds really insane.

Okay, I'm going to consider the source of this statement. It comes from you, Kukla, the first person to go spying on other private groups and posting the thread #'s in mas so your friends could go and look at them.

I'm considering the source again. Now listen closely...... members of Mas have admitted in threads (in Mas, not in public) that they have aka's that went around setting bait for me and numerous other people. You, especially, would squeal with delight and your comment most of the time was " I am sooo bad!!."

I have considered the source and I have made my determinations.

End of discussion.


Apologies, with respect, to Wynne as head of this group :)
I am so very sorry for bringing this to the top again.....but, it's time that we all learn, and be careful!

Because at the rate we are going now, there are a lot of members that will leave Group Recipes that really should not!

Greekgirrrl, do you see yet?? Do you see what's been going on?? And what will continue to go on??? Did we all deserve the messages that you sent us of late?? All because of this BettyRubble????????

Open your eyes, everyone!! BettyRubble will -- and already has!! -- resurfaced. One name today, account deleted, and another name tomorrow. Some things don't change -- but, my attitude towards warning others, for the future, has changed.

GG, you most certainly made sure I realized that! What do you think we should do??? Just ignore it, let other people 'get what they deserve' because they are naive?? Trusting souls?? Let them fall on their faces?????




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GG, you still don't see.....

Your choice.


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Your choice to bury this if you can, as well.....


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Time for me to go.....

Kris, if possible, I hope you can delete my account, in its entirety. I appologize, but enough is enough.

I have not resorted to swearing on a public forum, just so that you will delete me (my daughter's suggestion to getting rid of this account....) and I have never recieved a response from you in the past (though, now I know that *someone* was sending out a wrong email address for you...hmmmmm....) but I will try once more, and send another request to be removed from this site.

OK, Mystic, Greekgrirrrl, and the rest of you who are so sure that I've served such an injustice upon you -- get rid of me!! I just gave you an out!!!!





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This doens't mean anyone wins.....This is MY choice....
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Hello Kris, et al....

Thank you for supplying me with a wonderful form of entertainment & pleasure in a field that I thoroughly enjoy.....

Unfortunately, at this time, I would like you to delete my account; I feel that there is too much crap going on in the background -- and, every time I choose to ignore these problem people, they choose to keep themselves in the forefront -- the format of this site has been enabling them to do just that, and trying to ignore the crap is getting harder and harder.

Many members of this site feel that I am not worthy; so be it. I'm tired of fighting, so let it be known that I am NOT worthy, they are correct.

Please remove my account as soon as possible.

Thank you in advance,

[NAME]

aka Kukla, on Group Recipes


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Look......Greekgirrrl....Not everyone is on this site every day and this is a group to say what you want when you want....Including you...and including Kukla

Who are you to say Kukla is a troublemaker for bringing a thread to the front that is 3 days old?.....Aren't you the one who has done nothing but talk about this CRAP in another thread for the LAST 3 days?

I know exactly what Kukla meant in her statement of, " Further more, we won't be quite so predjudice in what we chose for you to see....".....You saw what someone else wanted you to see, not the whole thing......It's old, it's over, and this crap is making me tired....This is a cooking site and there are lots of humans here that aren't perfect, so please forgive me, I'm not perfect....And Neither are you


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Thanks Wynne :)

I'm not perfect either,.....BUT.....at least I never claimed to be.....

I'm tired too, Wynne.

Just once I would like to sign onto this site and know that these belligerent little shit___tes are not there to great me with their crap.....

Just once or twice in the past 9 months, that's all I ask.....


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Well said Wynne Kukla,pleas don't leave!


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Kukla.. Don't let it happen... PLEASE. You have my email and IM... catch me there!


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Thanks, everyone.....


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I do want you to stay!


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Hello, Pleclare :)

I would like to stay too, but not under these conditions. I know that you will understand what I mean :)
I gave it my best shot, but the conditions did not change. I will be in touch with some members under Yahoo messenger, or via private email, various other forms of communication......
But, I will NOT get up in the morning and sign on to this site only to get unwanted PM's, miserable messages, and accusations from the 'pots' (that would be as in, the pots have most definately called the kettles blacker than black, in this case, lol!)
If and when the site ever gets properly -- and finally!! -- dealt with, so be it; maybe I will be allowed back as a member, maybe I will not. At this point, I really don't care.

Does that mean that 'they' win?? Absolutely not!! I simply means that I have won; I have a lot of genuine friends from this site, and I have chosen to communicate with those people via another method, and one that does NOT include the accusations of the idiots.

BTW, I love the snowman :)


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My goodness friends, and I mean that as a geniune statement. Can't we all just get along? I know I'm a newbie here and don't know all that has taken place, but can't we at least exchange pleasant comments?

kukla...I have to admit...I don't know you. I quess our paths haven't really crossed. All I can say to you is I hope you don't leave. This is such a wonderful site. I always hate to see someone go.

Like wynne said, this is a cooking site. With an extra perk, in my opinion, we have a chance to really get to know each other. There are so many personalities on this site that naturally, people will disagree. I joined this group just for that reason. You may not agree with what I say and I may not agree with what you say. At least we have the right to voice our opinions!

Gg....I know you were hurt before. And I'm sorry, even though I was not involved. I think we all need to let it go and move on. You as all the others bring so much to this site. Lets just be happy in it.

Sorry, quess I'm trying to be the peacekeeper here. Comes natural to me. After having 4 kids you learn......lol

Have a wonderful evening everyone.


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Thanks,Kimmer. We just want to see peace!


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Kimmer, it is very much appreciated. Thank you. But I have one more thing to say.

Sme people seem to want to avoid the main issue with these inane histrionics.

What bettyrubble did was bad?- yes. She stirred up trouble?-yes. People's feelings were hurt?-yes.

Did bettyrubble rubble write these posts? NO

Would bettyrubble have been able to distribute these posts if they didn't exist? NO

Who wrote the posts? foodies on this site who are now carrying on as if I or Zanna, ruskingirl, lollya who got their feelings hurt are somehow RESPONSIBLE for what THEY wrote.........preposterous CRAP!

And instead of fessing up to it and apologizing , they try to cast aspersions. You wrote the posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS! ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT YOU DID!

I have already apologized for what I did in the past. Just because you didn't accept my apology doesn't mean I didn't make it. That included wynne, rml and line. Hell- you were talking about my apology pm to you in your secret group. Shall I pull up the thread?

You cannot even admit your mistake and that's what makes you look and sound pathetic.

Yes, there were other threads that I read from mas that were harmless. There were many more bettyrubble didn't send!


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Now the same people in mas are trying to bury this response...so typical!


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Gg....I'm sorry. I feel I stepped out of line now because I do not know all that went on and should not comment on it. All I was trying to do was keep a friendly atmosphere. There is obviously so many hurt and bad feelings here. I truly hope you can all work it out.


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Please kimmer, you have nothing to be sorry about.. You are only trying to do the right thing and there is nothing wrong with that.


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There are some from other private groups which I have been sent also. The Creamde.. but, those are old... do not want to bring them out. Did get a newer one sent couple days ago.. it was bad.. I did not want to post. I thought we were going to stop all this. Can we please.. try? Yes I have said stuff... I admitted that.. I said I did not trust some on here... that is NOT WRONG in this day and age. I think we are being played by some who like the turmoil..

Kukla.. you have been here a long time, and a great friend.. I hope Kris fixes this site. It is OK to disagree.. natural. But some feed off it. That is why we took it private.. And that is why we took it to another group. Glad you joined us there... Now they start reading that... then what? As we do get verbal! The private groups here are a joke... NOT PRIVATE... not at all. It is too easy to get into. And also, when a person on here gets "testy" and sends a virus via email... that is WAY OVER THE LINE. And that happened to me! I have proof of that ... I wondered what it was and sent to another... Stupid me! So they don't play nice at all... but put forth the image of being that way...

GG.. I already told you I thought you were a AKA.. and said if you were not .. I was sorry... You are not the only one hurt here... not at all.


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Whatever Greekgirrrl....They were private conversations that we had and if you read them, then you are just as guilty as we are.......Don't you think? We wrote the posts....Big deal.....They weren't meant to be seen and if you did, that was not our intent. Or for that matter, out fault.....I will not apologize for talking to friends about things and then someone else posting them for you to see....Look to bettyrubble for that apology!!!!!!!
This is the last time I talk about this ...You just don't get that even though you were talked about, it was not done to hurt you....Yeah, there were suspicions about you, and yeah, I stood up for you, even liked you.....Believe it or not....At this point, I don't care, you don't mean that much to me...Oh, and if you think we are all what you say, why even bother to post in Heat?....It's filled with evil here.

Kukla, sorry to see you go but I totally understand.....I am proud to call you friend and that's that. I know how to get to you, as you me.

Kimmer, thanks for trying to keep the peace....I like you for that....Be careful though, I'm friends with evil....LOL

Pleclare....thanks for always being there...:)


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linebb....I called myself the blonde beagle puppy the other day on checkin. Now I really feel that way. How can someone read something in a private group? I don't join the private groups (except TPB) cause there is no description of what they are about. I really wish there were. Because it just might be a group I want to join. Guess I always feel like an "outsider" and don't want to intrude. But I just don't see how they can read something unless, of course, they join that group just to spy. But then again, in a private group, don't you somewhat screen people? Just wondering.


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wynne....don't let this cute beagle face fool you. Friends with evil myself, lol. Have a great evening dear. And thanks, yes, I seem to always want to keep the peace. : )


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You're welcome Wynne! Am I evil? Kimmer,you are a good person!


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Maybe I am friends with evil??


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Wynee you are obtuse, not evil! Also completely immature.. If you want to play that way, that's fine. I don't mean that much to you? Oh well......

The fact is that even if they were not meant to hurt people because they were supposed to be private, they still hurt people's feelings and the fact that this doesn't bother you is what makes you a mean -spirited person..plain and simple.

You don't care one iota that people read these and felt hurt?? Shame on you.

And anyway, weren't the other private groups supposed to be private also? What on earth were you all doing pulling threads from them and reading them in your group???

You see, this fact is out now, so people want to know.

They also want to know why THEPIGGS has AKA's that she admitted to in these threads from your group. Of couse, she hasn't admitted that in public.

Why don't you tell Kimmer how to get into a private group? She did ask nicely. I already know.thanks to your group MAS!


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I have never EVER posted a word -- be that in a private group nor otherwise! -- that I did not believe in! And, if I was wrong, I have done my level best to apologize for that.

I have asked to be removed, and I HOPE to be removed very soon. GG, is that not what you wanted????? Get rid of all us baddies???? Well, you got it! In spades!! another of the Bad Ones bites the dust, huh????? Another of the pathetic, lying foodies is gone! One of the cronies loses, and you win! Hip hip horay for you!!

What is most pathetic is that you think you are the first one who's feelings have been hurt. Obviously you did not learn one damned thing! It took a lot of hurt -- to each of us! -- before we decided to do something about it!

Like I said before, you just don't get it, do you??????




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this is something I said to GG.... reading the private threads is like reading some-body's Diary or Private Journal..... and yes it wasn't like any of you went purposely looking for the threads... they were sent to you... well using the same analogy.... if by accident you find someones Journal does that give you the right to read it??? .. if you read some-body's private diary and are hurt by what they were feeling at any given point....who is to blame?? all party's are hurt... the writer for the invasion into their private thoughts or the one who was hurt by those thoughts?

I think all of us have vented to a friend or family member about our significant other.... is that the only way you feel about them??? they do something so stupid that you are laughing about it...in private.... your making fun of them or angry at them.... is that the only way you feel??? if someone heard that, what would they think..... what would your love one think???? it's a moment in time even if you are angry for a month...or more.... it's not the whole story..

the reason for doing this in private was to not cause what is happening right now... fighting, and more distrust... etc... there have been things that have gone on in the past.... thing that we all would not like to see happen again.... there has been a lot of unpleasent thing that have happened recently.. many of you didn't see or even realize they were happening... why? because the very people you are thinking are so terrible have dealt with the problem before it blew up like this...

and i have one final thing to say...
there is a thread in one of the groups that has me telling RML not to let on to DJ that she knew who he was...... now if you know me at all you know that I try to never hurt anyone.... so what was that really about..

this.... I wanted to talk to DJ .... an AKA.....privately because I like the real, him..... and I thought I could keep him from attacking a certain other member.... also.. This person DJ and RML just get in each others faces..... for some reason they just rub each other wrong..!!!.... i was hoping to avoid that confrontation...

now the thread made the story look one way but this is what was really going on...

should there be public apologies??? i don't know... do we have to say we are sorry to somebody if you say or think something privately??? if somebody reads or overhears something that they shouldn't and are hurt ... should they expect an apology???

my personal opinion is this.... I am sorry if some of you were hurt... that was not the intention... if you are hurt by something you read go to the person PRIVATELY and find out what was really going on.... work it out.... and then lets move one...
there is someone out there that wants to destroy this site and we each have a choice to make..... do we let them....Peeta


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Again, I ask to be removed from the site.
Kris has not responded to my email, for whatever reason (I'm sure he has a lot on his plate.....), so I ask all of you to please help me with this.
I want to be removed. Now!
Kris can delete the account and post whatever reason he would like.
Suits me fine.
Sooner the better.....


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Kimmer, I do wish you didn't have to read this.

No, some people have decided that they can't get along. Further, they can't leave others be in peace.

Fine! Remove me, and the problems go away......


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And, I would not even DREAM of stooping to creating an AKA.....

Kris knows who has them, and he bloody well knows I'm not one of them!


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Thank you, peeta.

I'm out of this thread...................


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No, Peeta, we don't want them to succeed.

I guess I am not strong enough to desire to continue being trashed; I know I'm better than that!

Does that make me a bad person?? Obivously so, in some eyes. But the fact remains that I do not wish to see any bad. That is my choice! I will flip the chanel on the TV is the news is on (wherever) and they go more than 1 minute without something good. That is just me. I don't want a constant, negative bad in my life. My choice.

GG just happens to be the straw that broke the camel's back. That, after this pathetic BettyRubble, which came after even more pathetic people. Wasting my time!

Those of you that choose to wade through the sh_-pile, good for you, as you will benefit ten-fold from the decent people, the great recipes, and the fabulous hints & help you can get! I simply have chosen to NOT wade through it any more.

My loss; so be it.....


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will you all stop this.... this is not getting anyone what they want except the troll


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Peeta, with all due respect to you (which you certainly deserve!) please PLEASE use your powers to have me removed????? I want out, and I can't believe I can't get out.....


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GG, you want to 'exspose the corruption', and then you want out?????????




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Kukla please go read you pms


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I did a AKA... she is long gone.. I did it to see if it was easy... it was. I never used it to do EVIL... did it to test. I really thought it would send up flags.. I even rated acouple of recipes on others pages! Good ratings BTW! Want to beat me? Put me in a stockade? BUT... I refused to believe it could be done. I thought there would be boundries.. So I tested it... BIG DEAL! I wanted to be sure it could be done BEFORE I pointed fingers...


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and thank you... I wish I had powers to bring the peace back


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Sorry; that would be *expose* -- obviously among all my evils in life, I can't spell either :)
ROF


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LOL if spelling is an evil then I am very very EVIL


my 4¢
why? because 2¢ is not enough.
i would just like to say a few things. i will keep it short.

this site used to be a wonderful place to come. it was chock full of good people sharing recipes and making small talk (thank you to those people).

when i found the message boards, i was elated! sweet! a great place to come talk about food and entertaining with people who had something to teach me! double sweet.

my first brush with the boards was when i stupidly fell into thinking everyone on the boards should be using it the way i was - to create my own recipes and share them. silly me, not everyone is motivated to spend hours pulling a recipe together. - now i know that whatever i put out there is just as much yours as mine, law says so.

my second run-in was when mystic river was brutally antagonized in the boards. now, i personally don't have a relationship with her. and fell right into being worried she might lo-ball me and create chaos in my already chaotic life. of course this wasn't through my own relations with her, but what i read of her on the boards. i heard she lied, hurt some feelings, lied some more. i chose to stay away. i didn't blame anyone for looking out for themselves or their buds. but good christ did you guys nail her to the cross. and realistically were just cruel. it was like watching 6th graders ostracize an outcast. it reminded me of my own childhood outcasting.

my last occurence, and i do mean last here with grouprecipes is this. upon seeing what the faux rubble posted, i sent greekgril a message - something i rarely do, even if i'm chums - cause i'm a busy kid. i reached out to her cause her feelings were hurt. here's the backstory on that one - i denied cooking friends with gg back when the mystic things was unfolding because i wanted nothing to do with the slandering going on (not even sure if she was even involved). but she asked again (probably didn't even know) and i accepted, because afterall it's a cooking site and i don't hold grudges well. (damn geminis)
anyways. i messaged her - to make sure she was ok. i didn't fully understand the upset, and well it's cause i'm not involved too much here anymore. well basically she thought i was involved in the circle extensively because i was also in some other group. now, i can't tell you how many groups i've joined, and i'm probably friends with mystic. this is not a daily things for me to manage. i just store my recipes here. anyways, she declined talking with me further. which blows.

so now. i leave too. and please, no messages to stay. no catty comments. this is a member that has been here from the get-go, the start and i fucking hate coming here now. HATE IT.

(oh, and please no comments on my language. i'm 31 and i will say fuck as much as i fucking want to)
:P

i'm sincerely not angry. it's just a healthy decision i choose to make for myself.
i won't even be back to read the comments posted to defend or judge or whatever.
i just don't have the time or energy.

all i can say is, it's just not that great. no one here is a "protector" of others. it's downright silly.
no one's going to get hurt if you don't tell them about the suspected "crazies" and seriously? who cares??

it's petty, junior-high ridiculous catty bs.

and i'm glad to be done with it.

sayanora
lolls

(i did not re-read before posting - so if it's harsh - that's how it is, time to make dinner) oh! and it's not pointedly aimed at anyone, just my general observations.

and lastly for the record gg, i was clean.


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Wow, Lollya -- well put! I couldn't agree with you more....

But, it didn't get me anywhere, so I simply want to be removed. Easier said then done....

BTW, let me know if the swearing helps, and I'll give it a try.... :)


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Beyond sad! Lollya, I'm going to miss the chats. Good luck with your wedding.

GG, sounds like you're the one who needs to apologize...not that it will matter now.

Peeta, you Kukla, Wynne, Line and Lollya....for what it's worth, you're all right.

There was a small instance where eeks and I had some "issues." He admitted that he was DJ. He could have been telling me a fib. The point is, we all choose to participate in GR in the way that works for us. I pick and choose who I respond to. I don't understand why wonderful cooking buddies are leaving....Just ignore the crap. If it bothers you, don't read it.

GG....I understand why you're so bitter. You bilged your buddy and expected others to accept you immediately. You sound Very Bitter. (again, just a cooking site)

I'd like to suggest that we all get back to cooking, swapping recipes and having fun in the groups.

Kris is going to have to kick me off kicking and screaming because there are just too many wonderful recipes and great people here.


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lollya I thought you were going to "keep it short"
ROFL
You probably will be back to read the comments so here is mine......do you realize you can get a point across without using foul language?
Wondering if the 31 was a typo and should have read 13..................
Just like mine when i hit momto4 when it shpuld have been momto5!

kukla don't leave for good, just let these people yap and yap ignore button may come soon! NOT soon enough but none the less it may come. I will talk to you on messenger.

Everyone, I personally think if you read a private thread and your feelings get hurt then it serves you right because you had no business reading it in the first place!


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oh would you look at that I spelled should with a p instead of an o
oops! those typos!


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Hey RML.. Thanks for that... and also for taking the time for my Grandson! Your wings are flapping again! You gonna home cook for him? I know... take out!

I will go kickin and screaming with ya GF... We have each others phone #'s and addys.. and IM..


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I have no freaking clue what's going on here and you know what? Thank God for that. Lollya is right--this used to be a fun place. I hope Kris scraps this whole format when he introduces the new one. This site has become nothing more than a place to store my recipes--there's no social fun.

It starts with people policing the newbies and "strongly" advising them what is acceptable here and what isn't. People appoint themselves to do what's best for GR and look what's happened. Sucks to be here. Seriously, it's just no fun anymore. Too much freaking BS! And it never stops!

I don't know who to even talk to anymore. And guess what? Nothing on the internet is private. There's always a way to find things out and you should all know that. If you're going to talk about people--be prepared to own it, because they're most likely going to find out.

And kukla, no disrespect to you at all, but if you want to leave the site, just go. You don't need to wait for kris to delete you. You started saying you were leaving 4 hours and 20 minutes ago, but you keep responding to the crap. The only way to break ties with a site is to take it upon yourself--and that's anyone, not just you, kukla. And it may not seem like it, but i mean this in the nicest way. If it causes you that much stress, do yourself a favor and leave it behind.

See you guys around sometime. Hopefully it's actually you and not an evil twin alter ego. ;)

oh, to any of you that are going through rough patches with health and sick family members, bless you and my best you and yours.


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:)


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Please delete me, let me go....
For I don't love you, anymore....
To waste our lives would be a sin,
Delete me, and let me love again....


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I have found a new love, dear
And I will always want her near
Her lips are warm while yours are cold
Release me, my darling, let me go


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kukla you are too funny!!


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Maybe Kris should change the name of the site to Bloodbaths R Us...? (said with a chuckle, not a machete in my hand).

Anyway...Peeta, thank you for being the voice of reason. I don't know anyone that I have ever met in my life who has not vented in what they thought was private, or wondered about something, or gossiped at some point, etc. And NO, it doesn't make it right, but, the point is, we are human. ALL of us. And, sometimes we take something and run with it, and later find out "hey...we were just chasing our own tail"; and, sometmes not. Does that make us bad? To quote the smartest, and purest living being that ever was, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" And that goes for everyone as far as I know.

The point I am trying to make, is, that there is always more than one side to each story. And yes, for a while, I was caught up in wondering about aka's. I have since changed my mind and my position about that. Of course, threads where I have stated that are probably not being copied, because that would not be hurtful.

There are sooo many varying opinions. And unfortunately, feelings were hurt. It was never my personal intention to hurt anyone's feelings, and, if I have at any time, I am truly sorry for that.

Continuing to argue, namecall, blame, etc. achieves what? Does it make anyone happier? Comforted? Have something positive to take with them through the day? Does it give anyone a smile? Does it give a much needed smile to someone who might have no other reason to smile that day? I don't think so.

However, choosing to put something to bed that will never be "solved" and choosing to have constructive conversations, fun, and share recipes that might in turn help us to bring a smile to our families and friends faces, are all good things.

Which would you rather have?


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Got to find a little humor in all this crap or go crazy!

Elle.. thanks for the thoughts on our familys.. that was a nice thought and much appreciated.

Kukla... LOL... Brahahahahah! Love it!

Momto4... or 5... it is funny... At least U and I think so!


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Elle, and Lollya.....
You would be right.

I did NOT mean to harm nor show any disrespect to either of you -- not now, not ever.

You have not, however, walked in my shoes on this site of late. I have done nothing to warrant the mean responses I have received from some people on this site. In fact, I have -- for the most part -- thoroughly enjoyed myself with those of you that use this site as it was meant to be......

The point I am trying to drive home is that the creators of this site really DO have to monitor things differently.

I have acted in a childish way, and I accept that. Please do not judge me for these last few days, but rather for what I HAVE contirbuted to the site.....And, for the record, this is not the first time I have asked to be removed from the site. I just thought maybe SOMEONE would listen this time, but obviously not. My bad. Very bad, in fact.

Having said that, I am now gone. For good.


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Well said sparrow....well said.


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Kukla, i don't think you disrespected me. i just think if you wait around for kris to delete you, it may be a while. And it doesn't seem like this is going to let up.

Yes kukla, I have walked in your shoes. All I know here and now is that things were said in private groups, and it leaked out. But you know what? I've been in this same situation. I belong to a very tight group of friends--we all live in different states, and had a private group, not an a site like this--think yahoo groups. We thought it was private, it got hacked, and all of our private conversations were copied and sent to many, many people. It was embarrassing, humiliating, infuriating--you name it.

I totally agree-this site needs a moderator! It's clear that we can't be left to our own devices, lmbo! i've talked about people that pissed me off here--not in private groups though, i don't belong to those because i know they're never 100% private. It was in pm's, and some of you smart people may have saved them, even! ;)

I'm not judging anyone anymore. We're all human, and a train wreck is a train wreck. Fun to watch, for a while, anyway. This one's gone on way too long.


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sparrow you have made some very good points... there are a lot of feeling that have been hurt... but that was not the intention....what do we do now??? sometimes talking things out so both hurt parties understand the other side helps heal the pain. and with that, start to rebuild the trust....

we have the power to make this the greatest cooking and recipe site on the web...

the choice is ours..


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sorry to see you leave us KUKLA... you have been a good friend..


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Thanks, Peeta -- Elle -- Sparow -- Kimmer -- MomTo4(or5), -- Line -- RML -- Lollya -- Wynne -- Pat2Me -- and all of you who have been contributing your comments via private messages, too, who I will not mention by name (but, hey! YOU guys know who you are.... :)

Elle, you are so very right. Thanks for showing me that level of respect, even if I don't deserve it tonight. :( I have 'stuck around' long enough to get a hold of my friends -- those of whom I couldn't reach outside of this site. Well, I've heard from most of you now....

Please enjoy Group Recipes as it was meant to be.


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Elle.. You have always treated all with a level of respect.. we have had discussions on things.. not always agreeing.. But did not go to this level.. It is normal to think apart... have different opinions.. NORMAL.. But to keep dragging it ... that is not good...
I don't have time for it..


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Are you saying I'm dragging it out? Or am I misunderstanding you...


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Brahahahahah.... No! Not at all! See how this gets out of hand... ????

No, I was saying that things from before.. Not you!


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No, it wasn't getting out of hand. i was laughing at it, but we have no damn smiley guys! hahaha!!


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Now there is a great idea... We need smileys! ;-)
Might lighten the load... How have you been Elle... ???


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Line I have to agree dragging things on for ever is not a good thing. I am guilty of that and I apologize.


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Michael... we all have. It is like I was trying to tell GG... I have been sent things too.. from private sites. Some just from days ago... I could put them here.. Would it do any good? No.. But with all this ... it is sooooooooooooo tempting.. I want to. I am trying to let it all slide back under a rock.. BUT.. this has cost many members on here. How sad.. And what is sad... Kukla could have put those links ... and did not, she could have left with a BANG! My self.. I would have... I would have blown it out of the water...

So are the rest going to let it go? I would like to know that. Or will they, in a month or two.. let it pop up again? I know you, Michael, have no controll over that.. but ... I am so tired of playing nice..


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Woops... forgot to say "THANK YOU" ...Michael
Sorry..


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please lets just bury this thread shall we all?! That's why I started a new thread post the last few days - in fact I started a few, just to help get things back to the way they were or hope to be...


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PS I wasn't trying to put off anyone by saying what I said, if I offended you, my apologies - I just want this great place to be the great place it is...


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Girl... you did not offend me... to much worring going on... to much! ;-)



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